慕容青草2020-02-23 03:09:27

多年前我在华文博客讨论了黑格尔的本体论的逻辑缺陷。后来我将其改写为英文贴出,最近将英文链接在脸书的某哲学群分享,引来了一位研究黑格尔40年的专业哲学教授进行评论。他的评论虽然一点也不出我的意料,因为我太了解他们了(这些年来,有两类人的行为水平让我非常了解,一是网军,二是专业哲学家),不过我想其结果可能会让其他不了解今天的专业哲学家水平的人大开眼界。先告诉结论:这位40年的黑格尔专家根本就不像是读过黑格尔的本体论,因此他似乎是在要教导我有关黑格尔本体论的评论完全与黑格尔的本体论无关。

下面请欣赏精彩的评论(不好意思,没翻成中文,如有读不懂的,请用“有道”或google翻译,这两款翻译器各有优劣):

The imperfection of Hegelian ontology

Rongqing Dai, Ph.D. New Jersey Abstract At the core of the Hegelian ontology are pure nothing, pure being, and the instant becoming between them, which were established by Hegel through the quest f…

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Fredrick George Welfare This is a superb example of Hegelese. I doubt that anyone can use such a closed system unless they examine both applications and criticisms of Hegel’s Logic.

Paraphrasing would be a much stronger and more edifying writing style than merely repeating Hegel’s statements. But, without giving definitions - what is logic, or examples, this essay is impenetrable to sensibility and sheds no light on the meaningfulness of Hegel’s thrust.

Ron Dai Thanks so much for providing a typical example of the hypocrisy that has caused philosophy to die!!!!....

In the past years, I have done in depth analyses of why the academic philosophy is dead...I have given many causes, such as the general (surprising) incapability of the academics to read difficult philosophy text, and many others...There is one important cause that I have noticed but have not got a chance to discuss, which is EXACTLY the opposite to what you are criticizing of my style: professional philosophers DO NOT have the good habit of citing the original text, and because of this, there has been a very BAD DISHONEST HABIT of the academic philosophers, which is the random false and fake interpretation of the difficult text that they are INCAPABLE to comprehend! Thank you for coming here to provide an example of promoting that BAD DISHONEST HABIT of misinterpreting the original text without citing the original.

How about a challenge that I bet you are NOT even ABLE to understand this article of mine at all, not to mention the original text of Hegel??!!

Do you want to go through sentence by sentence of this post?...See, I am calling you out...your comment is so typical of the hypocrisy of nowadays academia of philosophy!!! Do you want to take a chance to defend yourself, as well as the whole academia of philosophy??? Let's go through this article and to see if you really understand it, do you have the courage of doing this??? Come on, be brave!

Fredrick George Welfare Ron Dai No, I do not want to go sentence by sentence unless you clarify it with a clarifying meaning, AND address comparisons to critics and supporters.

Philosophy is hardly dead but you do not help by reciting text without clarifications or comparisons.

Ron Dai Fredrick George Welfare Your response is not surprising at all since LOW CAPACITY OF READING COMPREHENSION is typical of nowadays philosophical academics, and many of them are also lacking courage to defend themselves.

Now I give you another alternative to prove yourself: could you tell what is the thrust of the Hegelian Ontology that you seem to defend? Do you understand it at all?

Fredrick George Welfare Ron Dai

I am not here to take a test.

You are putting up quotations and reciting the same thing as the quote which provides no insight into Hegel, philosophy or logic.

You fail to see the important issues: why is logic a beginning point, what is logic? You take Hegel as without any presuppositions when there is obviously a presupposition, namely logic.

You are also unaware of why logic might have been a problem that Hegel and philosophers since then have been discussing - why is logic a problem?

Logic is a problem because it cannot generalize to ethics - ethics cannot be logicized, but any attempt to make ethics logical must be evaluated. Certainly Hegel holds that human institutions are firstly ethical, but to make this claim, the logical is at issue.

Underlying philosophy and logic is the relation of logic to psychology which doubles down on the problematic.

Logic works with natural bodies, objects which can be enframed under causal or means-end instrumental and pragmatic notions. The human subject cannot be so enframed! Thus, critics of Hegel, like those of Kant, attack over the claim of reification or fixity of the human subject without any ethical judgments interceding on behalf of the subject.

Logic works for objects, not for subjects. But I will listen to any refutations!

Fredrick George Welfare Ron Dai You are reacting emotionally not addressing anything I have said.

Of course I read the article, I have also been reading Hegel for 40 years. So I know a little bit.

When you provide a quote you should do something more than reiterate what it says. Put it in ‘your own words’ is a good idea.

I expect any Hegel scholar to connect a quote to what others have said - make a comparison between Hegel and someone else: Marx, Kant, Kierkegaard, Nietzsche, Popper, Dewey, Pippin, etc etc etc.

Now stop bothering me unless you have a substantive question and not a complaint.

Ron Dai Fredrick George Welfare Please see my response in a separate thread, because someone from FB has deleted my response in this thread (I have the photo copy to prove it)!

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慕容青草2020-02-23 03:34:29
如今专业哲学界之堕落由此可见一斑。。。而堕落之基本原因居然是绝大多数一般人想也想不到的: