mjnew2022-10-12 16:35:46

https://www.amazon.com/Son-Also-Rises-Surnames-Princeton/dp/0691168377

 

A surprising look at how ancestry still determines social outcomes

How much of our fate is tied to the status of our parents and grandparents? How much does it influence our children? More than we wish to believe. While it has been argued that rigid class structures have eroded in favor of greater social equality, The Son Also Rises proves that movement on the social ladder has changed little over eight centuries. Using a novel technique―tracking family names over generations to measure social mobility across countries and periods―renowned economic historian Gregory Clark reveals that mobility rates are lower than conventionally estimated, do not vary across societies, and are resistant to social policies.

Clark examines and compares surnames in such diverse cases as modern Sweden and Qing Dynasty China. He demonstrates how fate is determined by ancestry and that almost all societies have similarly low social mobility rates. Challenging popular assumptions about mobility and revealing the deeply entrenched force of inherited advantage, 
The Son Also Rises is sure to prompt intense debate for years to come.

mjnew2022-10-12 16:37:14
老中可以查家谱里有秀才、举人、贡士、进士?就知道自己学霸基因到什么程度?或者查生意最大做到什么程度
mjnew2022-10-12 16:42:13
800年数据说,英国好基因家族的女儿嫁好基因男,不下嫁。但这里老中学霸女儿全世界随便嫁,稀释基因,哈哈
Porcelana2022-10-12 16:46:56
所谓从前英国女人不下嫁是指class,不是指基因,更不是指学霸基因。中世纪英国的贵族是骑士,重视的是能打仗,不是会读书。
mjnew2022-10-12 16:52:09
Clark的paper看了吗?他讲的就是社会地位,骑士是一种,律师,法官,作家,商人,教授都是,但做的大小有区别
zeno2022-10-12 16:52:29
+1 欧洲贵族因为打仗得title
Porcelana2022-10-12 16:57:02
看过。这只表示英国社会还是有相当程度的阶层固化,不代表其他的。英国社会的阶层固化从二战后才开始慢慢解体,现在
mjnew2022-10-12 17:11:09
他当然不是说学霸,说的是社会地位,但读书好,也会反映到地位上,也是好基因的一种。尤其在以前中国
Porcelana2022-10-12 17:15:26
但这是英国的数据。从前英国的社会地位和读书好坏没什么关系。英国从前是骑士社会,不是科举社会。
mjnew2022-10-12 17:22:46
你根本没读过clark paper, 人家讲的很清楚,是社会地位高,但绝大多数不是骑士,老扯骑士做啥
tibuko2022-10-12 17:24:00
老中历史比较差,全世界从来没有学霸掌握世界的
yddad2022-10-12 17:24:05
中国主要是百家姓,用姓氏找拜错坟头的可能性是大概率:)
Porcelana2022-10-12 17:25:03
那时代的英国上层人士绝大多数是骑士的后裔,跟学霸没什么关系。
wlwt1232022-10-12 17:44:00
我没有见过一部家谱的祖上不出一个状元。
wlwt1232022-10-12 17:47:00
你忘了探春永远是对的。