水煮蛙2019-09-05 21:22:12

I sent my car to an auto shop for repair. They gave me a phone call for diagnostics and cost estimation. When I picked up the car several days later, they claimed the car has been repaired and tested. But after I drove the car for 10 minutes, the same problem happened again. I had to send the car back to their shop. They came up with a new problem of the car and another cost estimation, which I had no choice but to approve. When I came again to pick up the car, they claimed again the car had been repaired and tested on a 15-minute drive. But after I drove the "repaired" car for 10 minutes, the same problem occurred again. I had to send it back again. They came up with another new problem and another cost estimation, which, again, I had no choice but to let them do. Finally after the 3rd repair, the car is running okay now; but I paid for the 3 repairs. 

so my questions are (1) on their service policy, they should have given a written estimation, but I have never received any written estimation. On all the phone estimations, they claimed they found "THE" problem. (2) do I have reason to suspect they mis-diagnosed for the 1st and 2nd attempts of repairing the car, because the identical problems happened within minutes of my driving? (3) For the 1st time and 2nd time I picked up the car, they should have scanned the code and found there were still problems, but the obviously didn't bother to do that , when they said they "tested" the car (4) For the 1st and 2nd repairs, they obviously lied when they said they tested the car, especially for the 2nd time when they said they had done a long 15-min test, because the exactly same problem happened within my 5-minute driving. 

Had the mechanics have any responsibilities (meaning wrong doing) during this process? Also, after I found their repair was unsuccessful the first time, could I have just walked away without paying them? 

成功的熊2019-09-05 21:38:04
感觉我自己以前不会修车的时候,在各dealer和garage的眼里就是头上顶着“宰我”两个字的肥羊啊。
Oneshotkill2019-09-05 21:40:59
不稀奇,滴乐级别的维修也会有类似的故事。什么完全相同的问题?亮个灯什么的可不见得就是“完全相同的问题”。
man0082019-09-05 21:43:55
你去修车行修的是-刹车震动?
Oneshotkill2019-09-05 21:50:51
故障码再现有的需要时间有的则不需要,即使相同的故障码,不同的经验,车系及智商都会有不同的诊断结果,举证说谎的依据是什么呢?
MoonRiverMe2019-09-05 21:52:52
It’s supposed to be the shop’s responsibility
水煮蛙2019-09-05 21:58:05
engine 超热,抖动,熄火,停路上。前两次“修好” 后我没死在高速上算我命大。
水煮蛙2019-09-05 21:58:25
engine 超热,抖动,熄火,停路上。前两次“修好” 后我没死在高速上算我命大
PrimeryColor2019-09-05 21:59:27
你现在还是可以通过信用卡, 拒绝付款。关键是有没有证据证明店家作假。修车像看病, 有时要过程。
水煮蛙2019-09-05 22:00:15
谢谢
水煮蛙2019-09-05 22:03:54
但是他们第二次说test-drive了15 分钟,可我上车5分钟就旧病复发了,显然是说谎
PrimeryColor2019-09-05 22:12:07
有证据吗? 比如换下的零件, 没有必要, 没有服务就收钱?
MoonRiverMe2019-09-05 22:15:08
Engine trouble light有没亮?
水煮蛙2019-09-05 22:15:44
当时没想到留证据,没经验。
水煮蛙2019-09-05 22:17:31
灯有亮。前两次“修好”后,上车几分钟就亮灯,抖停在高速上了。
violinpiano2019-09-05 22:19:11
所以要找一家信譽好的車廠啊
xiangbuming2019-09-05 22:22:48
有信誉的不会把话说死的,只是说原因可能是这个,换完没修好也不负责
水煮蛙2019-09-05 22:33:17
信誉好的 没修好也不负责?这信誉来的挺容易啊。
xiangbuming2019-09-05 22:53:07
他们告诉你可能的原因,你可以不修
MoonRiverMe2019-09-05 23:01:43
灯亮了就最好诊断不过了
老金工2019-09-05 23:22:46
Looks like a story. What is the maker/kind of car? Dealership?
水煮蛙2019-09-05 23:29:52
2009 Toyota Camry
水煮蛙2019-09-05 23:31:39
I would not name the dealer here. It's not a dealer, but an auto
fourwaves2019-09-05 23:31:59
你知道三次修车时他们说的毛病是什么吗?
dongbeiren562019-09-05 23:45:18
站这,还是应该学学懂点车,否则,真是没办法,只能任人宰割。想当初,被换了个o2 sensor bank1 花了695刀。
水煮蛙2019-09-05 23:45:40
知道 1 battery wire
水煮蛙2019-09-05 23:49:20
关键是他们“修好”后竟然没有查一下电脑code,害我险些死这高速上
dongbeiren562019-09-05 23:56:00
这个就是麻烦的地方,如果他们说,第一个的确坏了;换了以后,发现第二个也坏了,修了以后才发现,第三个也坏了。
fourwaves2019-09-06 00:10:44
你每次花了多少钱
水煮蛙2019-09-06 00:18:17
大概 (1) $500, (2) $400, (3) $160
水煮蛙2019-09-06 00:20:00
不过实际想想,他说可能什么原因,作为一个不懂车的人,可能只能选择修吧。
水煮蛙2019-09-06 00:21:31
问题是,老问题(亮灯,抖停)马上复发,我怎么知道他们实际干了什么?
fourwaves2019-09-06 00:31:53
这也太多了,你可以去小额法庭告
水煮蛙2019-09-06 00:36:49
上哪找修车工人啊,谁会愿意帮忙啊
jin_yin_hua2019-09-06 00:38:11
我想你误会了.修完车以后把灯灭了,里面的code是旧的错误,要等新问题出来才会有新的code.同样的问题会再出同样的code
fourwaves2019-09-06 00:50:02
那就不行了,你不懂车讲不过
PrimeryColor2019-09-06 01:09:16
同情一下。 这些黒店, 有经验, 很难抓着。 相信这也是大家不得不diy的原因之一。
PrimeryColor2019-09-06 01:24:32
如果还没有修好, 你有希望。 到正宗第了去, 花一点钱, 拿到书面诊断。然后把详情写下, 把黑店的诊断和收据一起寄给信用卡公司,
bushihandyman2019-09-06 01:28:54
没办法,自己心里没数。只有努力找一家浅黑的修车铺
Oneshotkill2019-09-06 01:38:52
不好找,心里没数到处都是黑店,心里有数到处都是良心店。
MoonRiverMe2019-09-06 01:39:45
No, 就算是Autozone 的话要retrieve trouble code的话
水煮蛙2019-09-06 01:49:39
第三次 修好了。
PrimeryColor2019-09-06 02:04:20
Nothing to lose. Dispute the first two payments. Dishonest busin
bushihandyman2019-09-06 02:07:51
呵呵,我去的一家修车铺老板修完了让我看着给,估计给的比他期望值稍多
MoonRiverMe2019-09-06 02:34:37
这三个问题之间完全没有联系
violinpiano2019-09-06 02:40:31
等大牛來評論 覺得1修的根本文不對題
MoonRiverMe2019-09-06 02:47:03
典型的misfire
PrimeryColor2019-09-06 02:59:32
都总结好了, 就这样写给卡公司, 除了coolant overheating will not trigger check en
Oneshotkill2019-09-06 03:02:25
光修个引擎过热哆嗦到熄火一千都说不上贵吧?没有事实的猜测比在黑夜开枪还没有目的。
violinpiano2019-09-06 03:27:26
LZ不是已經說了三次的診斷和收費了嗎?
MoonRiverMe2019-09-06 03:34:01
你的车也许会,他的Camry就不会
Oneshotkill2019-09-06 03:43:56
没有最终文字维修收费报告说什么呢?引擎过热和电池接线不搭啊!
violinpiano2019-09-06 03:52:53
反正大家也就只能就LZ目前說的給意見
PrimeryColor2019-09-06 04:26:43
你这话值$400哦。
jin_yin_hua2019-09-06 06:57:50
我觉得楼主的意思是修好了以后,修车铺应该再读一次code,而不是读了三个codes 只修一个.
jin_yin_hua2019-09-06 07:03:13
什么是““修好”后查一下电脑code”?再读一次?