kelingdun2021-07-16 17:48:00

跟贴讲的对我的方法只是治了血糖,并没有治好糖尿病。  请注意我用的是逆转(reverse),不是治愈(cure)。   目前糖尿病还是不能治愈的,有stem cell 的治愈研究,希望能成。 二十年前谁想过HIV可以克服? 现在已经实现。

先说原理,俺本来不想说大家去看去听自己悟, 俺又不是专家。 anyway,KETO 吃法是 70% fat (油), 25% protein (肉,蛋), 5% carb(碳水化合物).  I will switch to type in English because my chinese typing is too painfully slow.  type II diabetes are due to insulin sensitivity due to  prolonged excessive carb intake.  because other part of body are insensitive to the insilin, that force the pancrease to work extra hard to pump more insilin, the various drug also squeez the pancrease to work even harder, the end result is pancrease will just give up.  Keto is scientifically design to bypass this problem.  As you can see from the attached chart, when intake carb, the body will spike the insilin to deal with the carb, protein will also demand insulin but more moderate and delayed, but when eat fat, body almost does not need insulin to respond.   

Another reason to do Keto is this diet is so low in Carbohydrate that it force the body to use Ketone as fuel instead of carbohydrate, and if body is in this mode, when there is not enough fat intake, the body will utilize the stored fat, thus Keto is very good for people who want to lose weight.  

The prolonged keto force the body not to produce that much insilin thus give the pancrea time to 休养生息。 there are cases that after 12 to 18 month of Keto, some people will recover some pancreas function thus be able to eat somewhat more carb, but this is still not a cure.

The above is only an very over simplified way to describe Keto.  多看多听。如有需要请咨询医生。

Some here ask about the intermittent fasting, the reason is the same, I eat two meals lunce at 1~2, and dinner at 7:00.  after dinner no food, no snack, only tea and water will the next day lunch.  This also let body not to produce insilin and give pancreas a break.  this will also force the body in low sugar mode thus good for blood glucose and A1C.

As for safty, the VIRTA health in US has five years of documented and published/peer reviewed safty and effective data. Very impressive, Norwood health in English has data for eight years.  Beyond that, Keto diet is being used for more than 100 years for other illness.   Some people say that body need some glucose, that is correct.  But the human body is very intelligent, when there is not enough glucose intake the body/liver will produce glucose from stored fat through the gluconeogenesis process.  for example, the eskimo indian who live in Arctic year round live on fish and animal products, no carb what so ever.  They live normal health lives.

there are much more similar examples .....

 

 

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想在此将我最近两个月的体验分享一下,作为回馈。 纯娱乐如想尝试请千万跟自己医生讨论再进行。

本人糖尿病十五年A1C最高去到11.5. 两个月前还是7.5. 体重 179 lbs.用药 metformin 2000, Jardiance 25mg. 经过大量阅读和听专家报告, 于两个月前决定尝试 intermittent fasting and ketogenic diet(一日两餐) to reverse diabetes and lose some weight. 坚持了两个月, 昨天体检报告出来了。 体重 179 lbs -> 157 lbs. A1C 7.5 -> 5.9, triglycerides 149 -> 68 waist 34 -> 31. 我已于一个月前停用Lipito人和 JARDIANCE。 metformin cut to 1000 mg.  我打算不停用最后的metformin, 因为此药很安全而且已证明可以抗癌和抗衰老功效。

 

I am extremely happy with the result. I will continue this for one year。 我的终极目标是 A1C below 5, weight below150, waist 30“。 另外想说,糖尿病不是不治之症, 相信科学远离所谓中 ”医“

分享几个有关的视频:

https://youtu.be/cFMKCmYGwNE

https://youtu.be/heV34wKXOdo

https://youtu.be/XQUnedwWHqk

 
咏月2021-07-16 17:58:47
我最近也在YouTube上了看了一些柏格醫生的生酮饮食视频,觉得有道理,但是又有太大风险
lawattaction2021-07-16 17:59:42
谢谢!
天儿晴了2021-07-16 18:34:37
我跟你講兩個我身邊人的例子。
咏月2021-07-16 18:42:06
谢谢分享。我觉得生酮至少是技术性很高,一般人要谨慎考虑风险值得不值得;像我家那位只是血糖偏高,我就还不想给他试
天儿晴了2021-07-16 18:54:53
適當地減少碳水是對的,因為我們中國人大多數主食吃得偏多,但是走到極端,我直覺就是不可行。
咏月2021-07-16 19:00:56
同意。至少是慢慢来吧,先减少一些碳水肯定没问题,别搞突然的大改变。
lbctymouse2021-07-16 19:12:15
我两个同事就是生酮了几个月,结果感觉不舒服,全部放弃。
Shine202021-07-16 19:41:42
我不是泼你的冷水,Metformin 1000mg/天 是挺高的剂量
山水一程歌2021-07-16 19:58:31
生酮饮食是不是要高脂肪啊?高脂肪引起高血脂?
山水一程歌2021-07-16 20:00:26
太高的剂量有啥副作用?
天儿晴了2021-07-16 20:06:50
是的,她開始的時候甚至喝防彈咖啡,今年她想把椰子油給我,我就知道她不敢再喝了
山水一程歌2021-07-16 20:07:51
年纪大了还敢这么折腾。真够可以的
天儿晴了2021-07-16 20:11:27
噢,可是B開始的時候是興奮得不得了,全是好,沒聽她說任何不舒服,100%的積極反饋
pickshell2021-07-16 20:34:37
我知道2人,生酮饮食后LDL指标,高得令医生咋舌。
天儿晴了2021-07-16 20:50:46
其實這喜和憂報與不報給咱們這些外人都無所謂的,我是衷心希望我碰到的所有人都健健康康,幸福快樂。
天儿晴了2021-07-16 20:51:24
其實用腳想也能知道那麼大量的油,血脂沒問題才奇怪。
pickshell2021-07-16 21:17:49
没错。生酮属极端手段,不可能完美无缺 没副作用,报喜不报忧,反而会让人感觉不真实。
Shine202021-07-16 21:36:58
排泄特别快,类似效果弱一点的减肥药。
天儿晴了2021-07-16 22:15:00
有啊,老祖宗的中庸之道
greenonion2021-07-17 01:19:36
我18年底试过一次, 生酮每天看着不生了, 就断一顿。 好处是全程不饿,因为油吃的比较多。 做了两个月一周一磅,过年女儿回家就
greenonion2021-07-17 01:28:41
美国一片就是500mg。 我老公刚开始吃, 大夫就叫早一片晚一片, 我坚决让他先吃一片。 我前段时间血糖有点高, 吃过一段1/4